Round '1' Knockout

Excellent all day smoke

This is my favorite tobacco. I just laid in 2 pounds. The subtle honey/vanilla flavor is fantastic. Smooth,cool burning,aromatic you gotta try it if you haven't. I got my first taste in a sampler. I've been buying it since. The bulk bags are such a great value. It's the sticky sweet of the pipe tobacco world.

What's not to like!

... since Scottish Moor went missing.

Some stems but overall a good tobacco

Is good

I bought this several months ago in the battles, found I prefer it over the Iq I have bought it 3 more times since that first time. I use it to blend with other tobaccos for personal preference. In fact Im getting ready to order it again

Good. Will buy again.

I enjoy this brand, order it all the time

Easy to order

Excellent aroma: Friends always ask what I'm smoking as soon as I have a bowl going.

If you have fond memories of someone in your life smoking a deliciously sweet, fragrant pipe, there's a fair chance this is what you smelled. It's been a go-to for many a pipe smoker for decades, with good reason. Naturally, the aroma is heavenly, but this is also one of the most flavorful aromatics I've ever had. It was the first tobacco I tried, and it was the reason I didn't understand at first why people claimed aromatics have little or no flavor. This has plenty! That said, it's a very light, gentle flavor that awards patience, with just the right hint of creamy vanilla. It might be my favorite blend. I haven't decided. I'm not an all-day smoker, but this stuff makes me want to be. It certainly is friendly, mild and smooth enough to be an all-day smoke, as many here have already said.

Very mild vanilla aromatic. I'm not a big vanilla fan but I really did like it. Great flavor to it.

This is a must buy blend. pairs perfect with that morning cup of coffee and has a perfect medium balanced taste and aroma

Simply awesome. What a great vanilla flavor. Very smooth smoke. This is going to be my go to tobacco. Try it you'll be delighted and more than a little surprised at the great flavor and low cost. I like several Lane tobacco's but this is by far my favorite.

Very nice taste Excellent Smoke...!!!!!

A wondeffuly mild smoking tobacco. No bite to this tobacco, just a smooth smoke.

Smells great, and doesn't leave a trail, but could have a bit more taste to it. Great for the price.

I bought this to create a version of Hobbit Weed. Its sweet and smokes well.

Nice blend

Pretty good for the price. Ill definitely keep a few oz on hand.

Love this tobacco. Been using it for 40 years. Please don't take it out of stock.

I'm not much of an aromatic guy. Give me a good English blend any 5/7 days...until now. This blend is just fantastic and has easily taken 1st place on my aromatic list. The vanilla note is upfront but not overpowering. Chocolate and honey come right behind nicely. The room aroma is fantastic, which makes my wife quite happy. And the price?! I've had blend 3 times the price that are outdone by IQ. Believe the hype. There is a reason it has been a favorite for pipe smokers for decades.

As a new pipe smoker I have little to compare it to. However, what I liked was it easily stayed lit, no tongue bite, and lots of smoke. The taste was not strong, and the room note was pleasant.

Great room note and a great smoke

Taste and burn rate both good

I love 1Q because I smoke all day long and it doesn't bite. I also has a great taste.

Very mild and cool smoke! Great price.

I smoke this tobacco everyday all day long. I love it and so do the people around me. Thank you pipes&cigars for the great service!!!!!!!

Easy to smoke, light well, slow burning, subtle and harmonious aroma, good mix.

Definitely a great tobacco! Smells and tastes wonderful!

Great flavor and smooth burn

Smoked 1Q for years was able to buy at my local B&M but the doors closed. P&C sells fresh tobacco and 1Q has been my main blend for to long to stop puffing it now.

Smooth, light, good flavor for a light blend. Very low room odor, I get a lot friendly comments on it I rotate this all day with Lane 1Q

It’s one of best tobacco for a pipe.

Best price on my favorite blend. Fast delivery too. Highly recommend!

Easy to light and smooth to smoke

Very good and smooth like to tried it after dinner on porch and the taste is good

It is good.

Lane 1-Q has been my pipe tobacco of choice for more than 10 years. Even non-smokers enjoy its aroma. I've been a pipe smoker for 50 years and it is my favorite!

I rotate this with another Lane bulk and really like them both. Mild with no bite, excellent all day smoke.

Very Smooth, And I get Lots of Compliment of the Aroma

I have been smoking this tobacco for at least 40 years. I smoke 15 or more bowls a day. I, therefore, need a very mild tobacco. 1Q is both mild and light with no bite. Most importantly, the ladies love the aroma.

Not a bite in a bowlful, and reasonably priced.

Excellent all day tobacco.

For my taste, 1 Q is the best and your prices are also the best.

Everything turned out awesome. Outstanding service and product. You will have my business from now on.

Been smoking 1-Q for over 40 years and have no plans to change to another.

A good all-day smoke. Will buy more

It's a good morning smoke

This my daily smoke. Easy on tongue,

Great, mild, aromatic 👍🇱🇷

Exactly as I remember. I’ve been away from pipe smoking for quite a few years and this is exactly what I remember enjoying all those years ago. 👍👍👍

Gently, sweet, bite free, and terrific room notes

I have been smoking lane 1q for almost 50 years

Excellent, light smoke. My regular brand...can smoke all day, and still tastes great! Been smoking it for many years now.

I’m new to pipe smoking and I read somewhere that this is the good stuff to start with. They were right:)

Excellent!

An extremely smooth and cool smoke that doesn't burn too hot or give any tongue bite. Pleasant aroma with a decent taste, although it does not have a very full bodied flavor, which some may enjoy. Altogether a great tobacco that I will be buying again.

Highly recommend it. I use it allot as a component in my personal mixes. It is also a great blend on it's own

Have smoked this for years . Still a favorite

Good tasting tobacco, good price

Great taste and aroma

Pleasant to smoke & I always have some in my pouch.

One pound of 1Q arrived fresh. It's the best tobacco I've put into a pipe. My corncob smokes great with thi brand of tobacco.

After we lost McClelland’s Virginias I started my search for a replacement tobacco. I friend had some Lane 1Q and I really liked it. I understand that it is primarily a cavendish but maybe my taste buds have changed.

This is a great rolling tobacco. Nice fine cut with a nice sweet hint, great all day smoke.

Very enjoyable to smoke. Smooth taste,

my vavourite Cavendish blend that ive tried to date. very smooth.

Awesome

My Favorite Pipe Tobacco

I'll give this four stars IF an equal amount of Lane BCA has been added to it. That's what I did, to salvage the 1-Q.

mild to me will buy more when needed!!!

Very good tobacco at a fair price.

1-Q has a nice vanilla flavor, burns well and is my "go to" tobacco. The price is also a big plus!

Excellent tobacco and outstanding service!

Excellent everyday pipe tobacco. Very nice room note, even many non smokers enjoy the aroma.

Great relaxing smoke with no tongue bite and a great flavor and room note. Worth the price and lives up to the hype.

this is a great deal for 1Q. thank you!

Better than low I-Q but nothing special.

Good tasting, burns good. Very smooth.

I-Q had enuff sticks in it to light a campfire! ....so I'll have to go with 1M

I've been trying to find something better. So far no luck.

Very good' aromatic

excellent flavor good all day smoke

I got into smoking pipes a few years ago. Not knowing, and trying to find "my brand", i found 1Q. The bulk purchase option has quickly become the way i buy, and my smoke of choice. Thanks P&C

The go to smoke anytime.

I'm a newbie to tobacco but this project appeared to be very fresh and clean and had a wonderful aroma in the bag. It smoked well and I can recommend it to anyone. FYI, all the other varieties of baccy I've bought from P&C have also been very satisfactory.

To me this is just a real nice all day Mellow Smoke to relax with evening time anytime everytime...

The tobacco smokes good with very little tongue bite. Smells great and burns good. The only reason I give it four stars is it doesn’t have very much flavor to it. Still with all that said I think it a great tobacco and will be buying lots more in the future.

Lanes 1q is a fantastic smooth smoking tobacco and I part of my daily smoke

Very pront. Good quality product. Will look at other tobacco.

Excellent smoke!

I was looking for a higher quality plain tobacco. You know captain black but better and this hot the spot. Will be buying again

This has been my daily smoke for many years. Enjoyable for the smoker and those around. Whenever I smoke this on the street, I always get a compliment.

enjoyable light and mild with a pleasant aroma

I've used this tobacco for several years and really like it. Thanks for the good price!

Love the mild sweet taste. Just a hiint of vanilla. & for the 1st time, i believed i tasted a hint of cherry in it today. Maybe it was as something i ate prior to sipping, idk. But, this is a great blend!

Great tobacco. No tongue bite.

I was looking for the mildest tobacco that I could find and so far this one is the best for my needs.

This is truly my favorite smoke. Smooth, great taste and burn. Leaves a great room note that even leaves me smelling like vanilla.

My experience tells me Lane Q1 can be found in vertially any where across the country but getting it can sometime be difficult as individual tobacco shops give it various retail names for instance in Dallas, Tx. the name given by most but not all is Aristocrat, in Colorado Springs it's called Timberline. Fortuniately for us "Pipes and cigars" always in stock, just remember to purchase a new batch before running out.

Very cool and mild, but tastes great.

A nice easy smoking tobacco. Probably great for a beginning pipe smoker. Burns well, easy to light and keep lit. If aromatics is what you like than this tobacco is for you.

I have been smoking this tobacco for a while now and am very pleased with it's mellow and smooth qualities as well as it's flavor.

It was not as good as captain black original.

This is a good everyday smoke. Everyone liked the room note when i smoked it. Good flavor, but i wish it were stronger.

Mild smoking.

One of the best tobaccos I've had in awhile!

I bought a pound of Lane 1Q after trying a sample of it and this is MY tobacco, there are many like it but this one is mine! Great service and fast shipping and stunning prices! They ship faster than Kardashians change husbands!

Better than 1Q every day of the week

1-Q and BCA - I'm happy.

To me, this is a pleasant cool smoking mixture with no bite. Enough taste to enjoy just one bowl & and mild enough for an all-day smoke.

This is my favorite

In bought 1-Q because of the high rating, and I must say it is highly overrated. The cut was good. The moisture was not. I had to leave it in an opened humidor for two weeks before it even began to dry out, any, at all in a moisture atmosphere of 32%. In the meantime, I performed the oven method only to have proper moisture but absolutely no flavor whatsoever. The aroma is heavenly but none of it translates to flavor in any capacity. I would say it is a wonderful smelling tobacco but it's just an ordinary tobacco when smoked.

My everyday smoke, at a great price.

One of the best I’ve ever had.

I really enjoyed this smoke. I don't know if it's just me but in the tin note I smell something like pumpkin bread with nutmeg. It has a very autumny smell, if that makes sense. The smoke was light and and nicotine buz was low. The room note smelled like someone cooking with spices and bread with the obivous lite tobacco smell. This is one of my new favorites.

Its what everyone says it is but mine had to be dried before use. Was kinda moist.

Came quick and at a good enough moisture to smoke. No complaints. Plus it's 1Q so it's pretty hard to hate.

my favorite blend

If you want a very mild all day smoke try Lane 1-Q. No bite. Low room note. This tobacco can be used for a blending base. I like to smoke heavy British blends so this was to mild for me. However, give it a try.

smoothest pipe, complements all the time

cut finer than i like

There is a reason this is the #1 aromatic on earth.

Nice "everyday" blend!

I have been smoking Lane's 1Q for probably 30 years. I occasionally try something new , but I always return to this. The service from this establishment is excellent, speedy and reliable.

Good value, good smoke

Mixes well the aromatics that I like or great as a stand alone. To bad you folks have so backorders on it as well as the other items you sell. Very annoying for us buyers.

Very smooth-Great taste!

I've been smoking Lane Q-1 for ten years. I won't smoke any other pipe tobacco.

Nice tobacco.

Did not give a 5 star rating as there seem to have been an increase in the size and number of stems in the bulk order.

I can see this being in everyone's rotation, but not quite being everyone's favorite. It's close to being great, it's just missing a special something.

I've been smoking 1-Q for years. Smooth burning and pleasant aroma. Thank you Pipes & Cigars for fine service.

The mixture is awesome, thank you for taking pride in your service. (keep it in stock ;)

1Q is my go to tobacco. Very mild. I've tried many others and keep coming back to this one.

Great service. Quality tobacco

The Sutliff 1M Vanilla pipe tobacco is very smooth and can be smoked all day. I constantly receive compliments about the fantastic aroma it has. I wouldn’t smoke anything else.

Although I generally enjoy smoking Lane 1-Q bulk because of its stronger flavor than Captain Black Royal, 1-Q Bulk tends to have more sticks and chunks than CBR (12 oz can) which is quite clean. In my latest purchase of 1-Q there was even a strand of fabric in the mix ... poor QA.

Very mellow with no bite. Makes a great all day tobacco

Love the pricing options.

Smooth

A perfect all day smoke. My favorite for many years.

It was a smooth, easy tobacco and it burned evenly and clean. I enjoyed the smell as well as the taste.. Nice combination.

Good, smooth. No bite. Aromatic .

There is a reason Lane Limited 1-Q is the best seller in pipe tobacco. It is consistently a sweet aromatic that's the same every pipe full.

1Q is one of the first bilk blends I purchased after graduating from drug store brands. Is is a mild pleasant tasting smoke with a faint liquorace flavor. Absolutely zero toungue bite! Great all day smoke that you will never get tired of and is completely satisfying.

Smoothest tobacco I've had so far

Very satisfied with order

Great every day smoke. Tastes decent and leaves a pleasant room note.

Smooth, no bite

I've been smoking this tobacco for almost 30 years. It's the best

Really like the flavor and the aroma. I'm new at this but am happy with this product.

It is a smooth, easy packing and thoroughly enjoyable tobacco.

Great mild smoke.

Lane 1-Q is good although not my favorite. The smell is awesome, the taste is pretty good, but the biggest thing I don't like is that it bites my tongue pretty bad if I fill the bowl and smoke the whole thing.

smokes good good room aroma

Very good smoke. smooth. Great everyday smoke.

Smooth and mellow

Aromatic that doesn’t bite, burns well and doesn’t gunk up your pipe

It was very enjoyable and smooth to smoke. I definitely will recommend to all my friends an family to buy an smoke this wonderful amromic blend

It's my favorite pipe tobacco

A bit too juicy for my taste but other than that it is good stuff.

Seems to burn a bit hot for my taste. Among the Lane's, I like BCA best.

To my tastes the Lane 1-Q beats the Sutliff on points, but not a knockout. Neither is as good as Captain Black Dark or Stanwell Vanilla, but the Lane could be a staple should budget constraints dictate one day.

No wonder it’s a Lane & P&C favorite. I love this tobacco

Just started smoking this brand. I purchased as a temporary replacment for Lane MV -1000 which has been on back order for what seems like forever. The 1Q is ok, but hasn't knocked my socks off.I much prefer Lane MV- 1000. Enjoyed Lane 1000 from the first puff.

Starts out a bit weak, but once you get below halfway in pipeful the taste and aroma increases to be very nice .

Lived up to the hype. Great tobacco, great flavor no bite.

This the Fifth time I have purchased Q1. Give it a try you won’t be disappointed.

Just got into pipe smoking and dont have a lot of experience with pipe tobacco. i got this one because of the large number of high reviews and i have to say it deserves it. Its a pretty nice mellow smoke with just a hint of sweetness. I personally like it a lot.

I think it's one of the best

Mild & I like the cut.

awesome, get told smells great, reminds people of their grandfathers pipe

From what I've read, I'm not out of line with 4 stars. I might had some other tobacco to it to perfect it (to my personal taste) but it's a solid base.

Great tobacco for the price.

Good taste and price

Always a good smoke. My wife doesn't like me smoking anything else! Store it in some good quality food containers and buy in bulk.

Was expecting something extraordinary but it turned out to be extraordinarily a regular smoke. No redeeming qualities but no bad ones either. Perhaps my expectations exceeded the praise for it. 3.5 star rating.

In addition to my previous review and missing from it: this is an ideal break in tobacco, either for a novice smoker or an old timer taming a new or reconditioned pipe. Easy to keep lit, low to no bite and tasty enough to keep a newbie interested. It’s also mild enough to not compound the problem of pipe break in. There are a couple if others in the Lane collection that might work as well, but in my opinion, this is an excellent choice...wife thinks so too.

mild flavor and nice aromatic

Doesn't live up to all the reviews I spent my time reading. I had to cut with some of my "good stuff" from P&C to keep from throwing it away.

Ok but not Wilshire

Subtle, sweet, easy to like. No wonder this is a top seller...no bite, good aroma both lit and in the bag, sweet flavor with gentle tobacco background, easy burn to the bottom of the bowl. My old Falcon loves it and stays pretty clean with it. I bravely ordered 4 ounces for starters and glad I did. Might suggest it as a starter for new pipe smokers.

Very good customer service and quick shipping!

So-so. I know it is a classic, but I find this pales in comparison to other aromatics in the Lane line

Awesome? Fantastic? Best of the best? Really people? Makes me wonder what everyone has been smoking up till now. Like some others, I simply do not understand all the 5 star reviews. And how it could be the best seller of all time leaves me incredulous. Like some others, I found this totally boring. The blandest, most no taste tobacco I have ever smoked. Also burns a bit hot. Like one other fellow, I will have to find something to mix it with, or throw it out. Total waste of time and money.

I enjoy this blend, it is the only one I like, also captain black reg.

Smooth and easy smoke.

Have to agree with a few others on here. Absolutely do not understand all the 5 star ratings. This is the mildest (read bland) tobacco I have ever smoked. It has almost no taste at all. I certainly don't get any vanilla taste or aroma. I've smoked Captain Black in the past, and while not my favorite, it does have some taste. Sorry I tried this. Will have to find something else to blend with it if I expect to finish it at all. A total dud.

I find the Sutliff 1M Vanilla to be aromatic, mild and smooth without bite. A good addition to my tobacco list.

This is not a value priced product. This is a premium product at a value price.

My first time buying Lane 1-Q. I’m a Captain Black smoker, but like this every bit as much. I’ll definitely be buying it again.

A pleasant and simple smoke that can be smoked all day but really shines when smoked while enjoying outside activities such as hiking or fishing.

Great Smoke! My wife will even let me smoke it in the house. I found a brand I'll use for a long time.

Great all around tobacco

A consistently nice blend of tobacco. I can't figure out what it tastes like, but it's pleasent. Only reason for 4 stars is the bag is junk. Get some jars.

Lane 1-Q was good, but not crazy about Sutliff 1M.

My favorite tobacco--only smoke this now

Good taste, great for morning smoke and watching the sun come up.

While the vanilla sounds like it would be good it turns out to be too singular of a flavor and lacks complexity of 1Q although it's close. I've only tried a few different aromatics and 1Q will remain my go-to for now.

Good all around areo.

Good stuff right here my go to tobacco

arrived quickly and the tobacco is very fresh. thank you!

Nice vanilla scent and mild smoking tobacco

Always good

Great

The standard that all aeros are judged.

The tobacco was of pleasant quality and condition. I am pleased with the transaction

It is a very pleasant tobacco blend. I also get compliments on the smell too.

Loved this purchase ! About to reorder !

One of the best.

Been smoking 1-Q for over 20 years. Nothing else I've tried comes close!

By itself, 1Q was alright. But, after taking somebody's suggestion on here about half and half of 1Q and BCA, Wow! Good smoke. Great tasting. Will order some more.

Great smoke. It is becoming my daily.

This is one that has little to no tongue bite which I love. The flavor and aroma are both excellent. However, I've heard Sutliff Vanilla is very good as well.

Nice, easy smoking aromatic. I wish it had a little more vanilla flavor when smoked. It smells fantastic. I can see why it's a classic.

My usual brand but at a much better price than my local stores. Thanks .

I have really enjoyed Lane 1Q the sweet taste and smell with the slightest hint of honey makes this brand and truly enjoyable smoke. When I sit on my porch and have my evening pipe it even attracts honey bees to investigate.

I like it, but not as much as Sutliff's Vanilla Custard :)

The best!

Just buy this

Great tobacco Great service

Great

This is a very good blend that is very smooth and relaxing. I have found that if I mix it with other blends that it seems to taste a little better especially when mixed with Sutliff Vanilla. It's nothing like what i expected but still a very good blend.

really nice flavor and smell

I tried 1Q right after I took up my pipe again, put it away for 35 years. Living in a rural community it is impossible to find a decent place to buy tobacco, so I tried Pipes and Cigars. There was a lot of good said about 1Q so I tried it. I would say that I was lucky there was no place to buy tobacco in my area, because 1Q is the best inexpensive smoke I have found.

Awesome

Starts and finishes really well. Doesn't set the world on fire but good.

Tobacco is great but my order was for 2 pkgs of pipe cleaners and I only received one !

I smoke this all throughout the day everyday!

I love it. Great taste and aroma.

This blend has absolutely blown me away! I am extremely impressed with this blend's taste, aroma and effect. I just picked up pipe smoking after putting it down 20 years ago and this blend is becoming my new favorite. My previous favorite was 24k, which I can't find anymore, but this blend is proving that it far supersedes all of my expectations in a pipe tobacco.

This is a good blend. It is mild compared to Sutliff Black vanilla. I like the Black vanilla better, but this is a good choice if Black Vanilla is out of stock or to strong for your individual taste.

New favorite. Great flavor and easy smoke!

Simply the best!

I really like it, it's one of my favorites along with 1Q. It has a good vanilla flavor and smokes well down to a bit of grey ash when you're done.

Good Stuff

Good smoke.. good price..good delivery..prompt service..happy!

The Sutliff 1m vanilla is very good. However, I was glad when it ran out and I could get back to the Lane 1Q which is just unbeatable.

I am new to a pipe smoking, so my review might be a narrow view. However, I am transitioning from smoking cigarettes for 48 years to a pipe and I am very happy with my choice of 1-Q. I needed tobacco that I can smoke right away, like it, and slowly concentrate on exploring other choices. The 1-Q made my transition life not only easy but also very pleasant. Excellent tobacco and excellent prices here on Pipe and Cigars. Please keep these good tobaccos coming my way!!!

Great all day blend, IT IS NOT CAPTAIN BLACK ROYAL!!! Yes it is Lane Limted produced and it's close to Royal but there are a few things that separate it from its counter part. This whole PG thing I think is funny all these silly rumors that pipe smokers invent in there heads about a blend, all aromatics have a moisture product sprayed into the tobacco to case it and sometimes PG is not the additive used to maintain the moisture level at all but that's another topic, how do I know lol because I just do ; ) point being is 1 Q is 1 Q and Royal is Royal those who's taste buds have not been burned off know that. I give this a five stars because it is a five star blend, if you are new to pipe smoking or been puffing the pipe like me for decades then I would recommend this to anyone as a fine smoke, for a even finer smoke just spread it out on a piece of paper for a few and BAM!!! Thanks PipesandCigars for great service and well maintained tobaccos pies up to you all and Merry Christmas...

Lane 1-Q has been my favorite daily Tobacco for many years. It is a mellow smooth smoking tobacco with a very pleasing aroma. I have tried other tobaccos but always return to my favorite 1-Q. When you discover the best you can’t settle for less!

There's much speculation on the difference between 1-Q, RLP-6, and how they match up to Lane Captain Black offerings. I actually contacted Lane Customer Service to clear this up, once and for all. 1-Q is the bulk equivalent of CB Royal and RLP-6 is the bulk equivalent of CB White. In both cases, the bulk offerings are free of PG and other additives designed to extend shelf life. That said, 1-Q renders a nice vanilla and toasted coconut flavor that is not cloying and smokes cool. RLP-6 produces a vanilla and chocolate flavor that is equally cool and satisfying. I always keep both in supply as it's my go-to tobacco, especially for breaking in a new pipe.

The service are excellence, I recommend to all of my friend, they are buying from Pipes and Cigars now, thanks to making me look good

A pleasant smoke. The taste and smell, just great. Will buy again.

Outstanding

B newman

I am a fairly new pipe smoker who ordered this based off the terrific reviews here on P&C. It's smooth and light with a pleasant light vanilla note and a nice room note. I've had four bowls and it's a nice light smoke but I've found that when I want a sweeter smoke I go to my local tobacconist's house blend called Vanilla Custard. Overall, Lane 1-Q is proving to be an enjoyable bowl that I enjoy on my morning drive to work.

Will buy again.

I have reviewed Lane 1-Q before as the best. Now, I have made it even better. Waiting for a new shipment, I mixed the last of my 1-Q with a last bit of Lane BCA that I had. Eureka! Try it! For some time now, I have been ordering equal amounts of 1-Q and BCA and immediately combining them. It actually seems milder and smoother, treats all of my pipes really well, and everyone loves the aroma (including some ladies I know who simply hate any tobacco smell). Try it. Next order, get an ounce or two of each to mix. You may really be surprised.

This battle was a draw... sort of. My hubby really enjoys the 1-Q and it is now his go to choice. I prefer the aroma of the 1M Vanilla when I'm relaxing with him.

Tobacco does not get better then 1-Q.